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looks good mate , very well hidden
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yea took a chance and to came out ok glad i didint get the witter one now as i know that one hangs down about 2 inches
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looks good mate. when the bars off its barely noticeable.. and if you paint the bung black (halfords do black plasti-cote paint that would work)
 
you wont see it at all.
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Daveo - I like that a lot Thumbs Up
 
I like Tom's install too Thumbs Up, both very neatly done.
 
But having it hidden like that is perfect for me....just what I'm looking for. So details, where, when, how, who....

Thanks Tom and Daveo for posting the pics...good work guys.
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i can answer that hamish

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just shoot him hamish and be done with it , i know a man who can Wink 
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Got the tow bar from pfjones.co.uk £165 and the electrics kit was £47 I think but to be honest you could just connect a normal socket to it rather than one for a Nissan qashqai as there's no relays or anything in the kit !!!
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http://www.pfjones.co.uk/qashqai-2007-detachable-towbar.html


This is the one I got
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maybe its to do with the bracket daveo?
 
the qq one maybe has a different bracket.
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Craig I meant the deacated wiring if you see the 1st post it tell you what pins do what on the socket in the boot the only thing you get with the deaicated socket is it switches off the rear fog and parking sensors ( if fitted) When the trailer plug is plugged in

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cheers for info, duelly noted.
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are you adding one then qqk ???
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not at the moment. but possible in future. dont have a use for one just now.. never tow anything.

but its good to know incase i ever need one.
(not that my 1.6 would tow much )
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I just got mine for a cycle rack didn't want one of them that clip on the boot or go on the roof
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same here daveo. i dont have a bike so no need for a rack
 
but if i did wouldnt want the boot or roof rack type
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TOW BAR FITTING 
 
Thank you Anteg for your guide it was a great help and saved me bags of time even though it still took me a total of six hours to fit one, mainly because I did not want to damage the bumper when taking it off the side clips were a real pain, and i must have wasted a good hour trying to figure out how to get the electrics from the battery to the boot. I settled in the end to passing the cable underneath the car which I am not really happy with so if any member has done it via the engine bulkhead please post a reply?.
 
I have fitted a Witter detachable flange type mainly because i wanted the option of putting a bike rack/carrier on to the tow bar enabling me to tow at the same time as carrying up to three bikes.
 
PFJones as recommended on this site are the boys to see, miles cheaper than any one else.
 
 
 
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looks good sapper , i gave up trying to get a wire through the bulk head , just to much involved
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I bought my Westfalia Detachable towbar from P.F.Jones today. £165 still.

I had originally planned to get the Witter one but took the advise from Behavedaveo.
I will wait for some nice weather for fitting.
 
Whilst fitting my illuminated side sills I spotted a grommet in the bulkhead near the BCM. I thought this would be handy for getting wires through to engine compartment if required at a later stage.


Edited by noki49 - 31 Mar 2011 at 8:36pm
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Bringing this thred back to life rather than starting a new I have a question.   I'm llooking to fit a bar with 13pin electrics. If I connect to the Nissan supplied wireing in the boot do I need I use a bypass relay?

Am looking to cut the connector off and solder directly to those wires.
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Thanks for the reply. One last question. Any ideas of a cable route from the cabin to the engine bay. Been
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There isnt one , not without removing the protection plates underneath im afraid
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Thanks all for the help, fitted  the bar today, i found a way into the engine bay from the passenger side,  If you remove the glove box, in the door pillar there is a black paper dot covering a hole into it, then when the door is open there are two rubber grommets covering a hole that points backward and the other outwards from the car,  i managed to get a cable from that hole inside to the hole points outwards, this between the wing and the door, then the cable can go behind the wing and into the engine bay, the cable is visable when the door is open but is clear from the hinge. 

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Hi guys after a bit more advice, am fitting a 13 pin socket, i intend to tap into the nissan provided wireing for the lights,(cut off the plug and solder directly ) for the power for the fridge and van battery i have run cable to the rear ready, i intend to use a TEB7AS bypass relay for the lights, i decided to use on as ever pice of advice recommended one for safety even when using the manufactures wiring, i am also going to use the TEC3m split charge for the power for the fridge and battery charging/caravan power. 

i have run a 27A cable directly from the battery to the rear ready, this was intended for the Split charge circuit only, however now i have received the Bypass relay it stated it also needs 25A feed for the lights, now i know there is a 12v feed in the nissan wiring however i don't know what this is fused at or if its enough to power caravan lights. 

my other options are run everything of the new 27A cable however i don't this this would be enough for both or run another feed back from the battery again for the relay. 

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You will only be charging your caravan battery when your towing. Presumeably you will be using the van battery for your lighting so why do you need an extra feed from your car battery? In any case 25amps!!! You dont normally get more than 16 amp AC power from a site hook up, so what are you powering with 25amps DC?Confused
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basically when towing the caravan club state that most fridges are 180w and can draw upto 15A alone, add to this what ever current the battery will use to charge as well so thats the 27A feed swallowed up, 

The problem is the bypass relay also requires a feed of at least 25A just for powering the caravan lights when driving,  the unknown is the 12v feed provided by nissan in the tow bar electric prewired plug, from the gauge of wire its certainly thinner than the 27A i bought, i cant find any info on if its fused or ratings. 

i either use this to power the bypass relay of my only other choice would be another feed from the battery for this. 


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Hi Ben
Just seen your old post re fitting a tow bar. I'm fitting aftermarket reversing sensors and need to connect a cable to the reversing lights circuit. Would the connector you mentioned be suitable for this. Also where exactly in the boot can I find this socket?
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Hi Mike, I see you found this thread - just posted a link on your other post about "potentially" removing the bumper (or part of it).....

As for the electrics, I'm pretty sure if you remove the inside trim at the rear of the boot the socket is in that area to the left (or could be behind left side panel).
Honestly can't remeber exactly now, but just know its on the left side.
Whether its got what you want I'm afraid i can't help there... is it just a trigger for the sensors?
If so, I guess the reverse light cable could be used?? No?
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Thanks for your reply. Yes it's just a trigger for the reversing sensors. on my last car it was a two minute job as the reversing lights were within the boot so it was just a scotchlock connection onto the reversing light cable. The Qashqai is more difficult as the reversing lights are in the hatch. I'll have another look tomorrow but I couldn't see any connector when I looked earlier today.
Appreciate your help.
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Bit of a resurection here but hoping it finds the answer...

behavedaveo - your westfalia towbar, did it require the bumper to be trimmed at all? The current set of instructions listed on pfjones website shows a few cuts that need to be made and I wanted to check that this was still the same towbar listed as the one you have/had fitted. I want to get a towbar that has no external visibility apart from when in use and this one of your fits the bill perfectly. Thumbs Up

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Hi reference fitting of tow bar. I fitted a tow bar to my 2010 N tec and it did not need any cuts to the bumper and was quite straight forward to fit. It was a Witter detachable tow bar DT134Q for Nissan Qashqai 2007 on. Hope that helps.

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Do you have any pics you can attache Dave?

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Hi Ant If you go to a recent entry of mine on this thread dated 31st march 2011 there are a couple of photos and I did a detailed topic on how I did it that is on here some where.

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Thanks for this guide. I used it for reference in fitting my Westfalia 'hidden' towbar this weekend.

Took me about 7 hours total over Friday evenikg and Saturday morning. Which included removing the interior and back seats from my +2. Could have been a lot quicker without that 'new car' paranoia.

My only comments would be:
- The 3 teeth or tangs that hold the bumper on between the wheel arch and rear of the car are impossible to get to - unless there is a special tool to get in and press them out of the way. Both sides were yanked off on mine - this isn't a problem though as the bumper is more than securely fastened with the rest of the fittings.
- There is also a bolt below the rear lights which secures the bumper.
- Font tilt the bumper too far when pulling it free from the last 3 connectors. I snapped one of mine. The bumper just needs to be pulled straight out of these clips.


All in all though this is a great guide!! And it should give anyone with a bit of spanner experience the confidence to DIY this job. Thank you for posting it!!

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